There’s a bit of an eating contest going on with the Raiders Nov 25, 2019 2:33:07 GMT
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Since the end of last season the Raiders have talked about 2018 third round pick Arden Key putting on weight and getting..." />Skip to main contentclockmenumore-arrownoyesSilver And Black Pride homepageHorizontal - WhiteSilver And Black Pridean Oakland Raiders communityFollow Silver And Black Pride online:Follow Silver And Black Pride on TwitterFollow Silver And Black Pride on FacebookLog in or sign upLog InSign UpSite searchSearchSearchSilver And Black Pride main menuFanpostsFanshotsRaidersOddsAboutMastheadCommunity GuidelinesStubHubMoreAll 321 blogs on Horizontal - WhiteFanposts Fanshots Raiders StoriesScheduleRosterStatsYahoo Raiders NewsYahoo Raiders Team PageYahoo Raiders ReportYahoo Raiders Depth ChartYahoo Raiders TransactionsYahoo Raiders PhotosOdds About Masthead Community Guidelines StubHub ✕Raiders training camp 2019 day 6 recap: Jon Gruden wants rookie Maxx Crosby to eat and eat he hasNew Derek Carrier Jersey ,57commentsPDTShare this storyShare this on FacebookShare this on TwitterShareAll sharing optionsShareAll sharing options for:Raiders training camp 2019 day 6 recap: Jon Gruden wants rookie Maxx Crosby to eat and eat he hasTwitterFacebookRedditPocketFlipboardEmailThere’s a bit of an eating contest going on with the Raiders edge rushers. Since the end of last season the Raiders have talked about 2018 third round pick Arden Key putting on weight and getting stronger. Then they added Maxx Crosby in the fourth round of this draft and immediately asked him to pack it on as well.Key’s weight has been discussed at length. How he played around 240 last season, came into OTA’s at 245, bulked up to 260 and now has lost five pounds in camp to drop down to 255.Crosby’s weight hadn’t been discussed until today when Gruden brought it up following practice.“He’s a guy that has really gotten stronger,” Gruden said of Crosby. “He really likes the training table in there and the 10 o’clock snack. We’ve encouraged him to eat and take those supplements to get stronger and heavier. He can play left end, he can play right end, he has an incredible motor. He wins the gassers too at the end of practice. That’s a great ingredient to have, effort. He’s working on his repertoire. [Defensive line coach] Brent Buckner’s a heck of a coach and we’re seeing some improvement.”Packing on weight can be tricky. These guys must add ‘good weight’ which means to make sure they’re not just getting fat, but getting stronger. Weight that stays on and doesn’t slow them down. Crosby has been busy working on his coach’s request to bulk up.“Coming out of college I weighed maybe 240 and right now I weighed in this morning at 266,” said Crosby. “So, I’ve been doing everything I can and putting the right calories in my body to be ready for Sundays.”Twenty six pounds in quite a bit of added weight. It hasn’t slowed Crosby down, that’s for sure. He’s got a motor that runs constantly and he makes sure he finishes every drills either first or near first. The guy never sits still. He always bouncing around and if there’s a rap song on he likes, he’s dancing as well.The 21-year-old sees his hustle as paying off for him, saying “I want to be the first in everything I do, so once the game comes it’s easy.”His motor has gained him a reputation. A good one, mind you. And it is replete with a video from practice that was making the rounds in which he got the edge on second year tackle Brandon Parker. He chuckled when I asked him about it because he has noticed the video has been passed around. But he was also quick to shoot down its significance.“I don’t pay too much attention to it,” Crosby said with a smile. “I just got to get better every single day. The biggest thing about being a professional is winning the next rep, not just winning one rep. The coaches emphasize that a lot, so I just got to keep bringing it every day.”The soft spoken rookie wants to be seen as more than just a ‘hair on fire’ edge rusher. He takes pride in his all-around game and the weight gain should help him in that regard.“I just try to focus on the little details and just affecting the game more than just pass rushing,” Crosby said. “I believe coming in everyone saw me as just a pass rusher, and that was my one thing that stood out, but I feel like I’m a complete player and I can affect the game in many ways. That’s just the main thing. Just doing the little things right and just focusing on affecting the game as much as I can.”Defensive play of the dayCrosby had a couple nice defensive plays in practice today. Proving some of what he was saying with regard to being more than just an edge rusher. On one play he got in Derek Carr’s passing lane in the right flat to bat down his attempt. A bit later, he sniffed out the end around from Hunter Renfrow and met him behind the line for a tackle for loss. Just to drive the point home, Crosby wrapped up Renfrow and lifted the 5-10, 185-pound receiver in the air for a couple seconds before placing him back on the ground. Think of it like giving his fellow rookie teammate a big hug.Catch of the dayThe most entertaining catch was JJ Nelson who got free up the left sideline and made a circus catch, tipping the ball probably three times before hauling it in. The issue is, he made it far more difficult than it had to be because he stopped running and turned to jump for the ball. Had he kept running, he may have had it in stride. Others with good looking catches were Keelan Doss, Tyrell Williams, and Darren Waller. Though Waller also got wide open behind Daryl Worley only to drop a perfect pass from Carr. It was brutal. Can’t have drops like that.Party pooperAnother day without Antonio Brown. Prior to the day off Jon Gruden sounded like he really thought AB would be back and would soon be practicing full. That hasn’t happened. And it’s frustrating.“I’m an optimistic guy,” Gruden said of his hopes Brown would be back by now. “Yeah, I mean I think we’re all disappointed. We think he’s disappointed. We’d like to get the party started. We’d like to get him out here. He’s a big part of this team, but in the time being we’re going to continue to work hard and we’ve seen the development of some other receivers we are excited about.”Brown came off the NFI list on day two, but since then has seen just two partial practices while missing four full practices in six days. The wait continues.InjuriesPaul Butler wasn’t practicing today with an undisclosed injury. Others not practicing include Gabe Wright (knee), Eddie Vanderdoes (concussion), Quinton Bell (undisclosed), and Antonio Brown (Feet?). PUP: Denzelle Good (back). NFI: Keith Smith (knee).Follow @levidamien By the time NFL players reach their third and fourth years in the league, the vast majority are struggling just to hang on because of injuries or younger, faster and often cheaper rookies out for their jobs.In 2006 and 2011, the players union and the NFL tried to do something about that, adopting salary and bookkeeping rules with the potential to extend the careers of these veterans.It hasn’t worked.In a first-of-its-kind analysis, The Associated Press found that since 2005 Mike Nugent Jersey , the average amount of playing experience for athletes on the NFL’s opening-day rosters has shrunk from 4.6 years to 4.3.In 2005, there were 784 players with three years’ experience or less and 714 with five or more years. In 2018, the gap widened to 852 and 644.Teams are increasingly made up of a few star millionaires and an army of young players earning close to the minimum salary, with a dwindling number of older, journeyman athletes in the middle.“You don’t really have a lot of middle-class older guys. It’s actually kind of sad,” Detroit Lions safety Glover Quin said.For most guys in the NFL, there is more at stake than salary. Those who make it three years plus three games become vested in the league’s pension plan. Many players argue, too, that they deserve better from the NFL than to be treated as disposable, given the heavy toll the game takes on their bodies.The exodus of the mid-level veteran is a longstanding source of tension between the union and the NFL, made more acute because of the increasing speed and violence of the game and advancing knowledge about the long-term effects of concussions. The issue could become a sticking point in the next collective bargaining negotiations; the current deal expires at the end of the 2020 season.Union leaders argue that they have fought successfully to increase the amount of money going to all players, in part by raising the NFL cap on team payrolls. As the union sees it, where front offices spend that money is their decision.“Just as long as they spend it,” said union president Eric Winston, who played for 12 seasons. “But how do you address something like that? Do you say, ‘Well, let’s mandate there are five to 10 guys on every roster who have four to seven years’ experience?’ OK, then which guys aren’t going to make the roster because of that?”The NFL declined comment on the findings.Every September, third- and fourth-year players get cut to make room for younger and less-expensive athletes, who themselves will become expendable as soon as they are eligible for higher salaries.Unlike the NBA and Major League Baseball, neither of which is as dangerous as football, the NFL has very few players with guaranteed contracts — meaning, if they get injured or cut, they don’t get their full salary. Some might even get nothing.The story of ninth-year Seahawks safety Earl Thomas stands as a cautionary tale. Thomas held out through the preseason for a new, cash-up-front, long-term contract in case of serious injury.He failed to get what he wanted and played instead under his soon-to-expire contract this year. In the fourth game of the season, he broke his leg.The final image of Thomas on the field was of him giving the finger to his own bench as he was carted off, knowing he almost certainly won’t get as big a contract now that he’s damaged goods.In a different contract squabble, sixth-year Steelers running back Le’Veon Bell, seeking a long-term deal that would protect him in case of injury, took the virtually unprecedented step of holding out the entire season .In 2006, the “minimum salary benefit” was added to the collective bargaining agreement to help lower-paid veterans keep playing. It allows teams to sign players in their fifth year and beyond to one-year contracts at the league-mandated minimum for their experience level, while charging less than the full amount against the club’s salary cap.For example, a fifth-year player this year would get the league minimum of $790,000, but only $630,000 of that would be counted against the $177 million cap on the team’s payroll. (The league minimum for a rookie is $480,000.)In 2011, the NFL and the union went further and slapped salary limits on first-round draft picks, in part to free up money to sign other players.“The union got a lot of pushback from older players saying, ‘I can’t compete Jim Otto Jersey ,'” said agent Joe Linta. The new rules “gave the teams the ability to judge them on equal footing.”But according to the AP data, since the introduction of the 2011 collective bargaining agreement, the average amount of playing experience among the 1,700 or so athletes on opening-day rosters has shrunk 3.3 percent. And the new contract terms did nothing to halt the exodus of players with five or more years under their belts.“They’re always going to go with the younger player,” lamented James-Michael Johnson, a linebacker who retired at age 27 after getting cut seven times by six teams over four seasons.Most teams use around 50 percent of the cap on their 10 highest-paid players, one of whom is almost always the quarterback. Rookie draft picks eat up between $5 million and $15 million. The 35 or so other players scrap for the rest — and that amount is drawn down by money paid to injured athletes and those no longer on the roster.As a result, teams hesitate to spend an additional six figures on players of questionable value.“Bottom line, they’ve got four years of tape on me. Whoever I was going to be, I would’ve been by that fourth year,” Johnson said. “A first-year guy, they think, ‘We cut him, he goes to the Patriots and becomes one of their best dime-cover linebackers ever, and we’re going to look stupid.’ That’s why they let the older guy go.”Though there has been ample anecdotal and some statistical evidence about the NFL’s relentless youth movement , the AP analysis offers new details, including the exact percentage of the decline in veterans. It also breaks down the numbers by team and position.The only position outside of kicker and punter that is trending older is, not surprisingly, quarterback, where average experience has risen since 2005 from nearly 4.8 years to 5.8. (New England’s Tom Brady, 41, is in his 19th season.)Experience at other positions is declining. Positions widely seen as most replaceable — running back, linebacker, wide receiver and interior lineman — have seen some of the sharpest drops.It’s what makes a player such as Pittsburgh Steelers receiver Darrius Hayward-Bey something of a unicorn in today’s NFL.The first-round draft pick just finished his 10th year — playing out a three-year contract worth barely over the league minimum — in large part because he has found a niche: He is low-priced, is good on special teams and provides leadership in the locker room for Pittsburgh, which, along with New Orleans, was the only team to stay above the league average in experience through all years of the AP survey.“The only time I ever think about it is when guys walk around like, ‘Man, 10 years,'” Heyward-Bey said. “So I think I am doing something special that’s different. Usually, you’re in the league 10 years, you’re a superstar. I’m just a guy.”Oakland Raiders defensive lineman Frostee Rucker, a 13th-year veteran who played for the minimum of $1.015 million in 2018, said the benefits he stands to collect when his career is over serve as an incentive to keep going. But he knows he is part of a vanishing breed.The money “usually goes to the quarterbacks now,” he said. “They essentially took the middle class out of football.”__Contributing to this report: AP pro football writers Josh Dubow in Oakland, California; Teresa M. Walker in Nashville; Rob Maaddi in Philadelphia; Arnie Stapleton in Denver; and Dennis Waszak Jr., in New York, and sports writers Tim Booth in Seattle; Will Graves in Pittsburgh; Noah Trister and Larry Lage in Detroit; Michael Marot in Indianapolis; creative lead Philip Holm in New York.